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hello everyone thank you so much for

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joining me today i hope everyone is

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doing well i just want to take this

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moment to say a big thank you to max

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moskowicz for letting me jump on his

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channel for the last hour that was great

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um always love speaking to max and then

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i want to just shout out the moderators

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max who's in here dan the signal my

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brother and josh uap uk thank you for um

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for the work and

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you know making sure the chat

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stay mature and classy so i'm sure

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there'll be no problems

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so yeah um let's get into it without

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further ado guys this is why we're here

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i'd like to introduce

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mr elizondo

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hi everybody thanks for having me hey

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lou thank you so much for joining me

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again it is always an honor and a

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pleasure so how are you doing today

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oh my goodness um

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well you know i know i say this it's

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probably a cliche at this point but

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every day above ground is a good day so

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i'm i'm not complaining um you know

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everything is uh is is pretty good

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good and you've um

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adjusted back to being at home after

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your trip at the last weekend

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i mean honestly i i've traveled so much

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in my career uh even before i ever did

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this um i adjust the time zones pretty

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pretty quick

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so for me it's

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i don't really know where i am at any

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particular day until i look around and i

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realize what time zone i'm in but yeah

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i'm i'm i'm quite quite well thanks

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now good glad to hear it now let's just

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bring up san marino i know it's pretty

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much been spoken about quite a few times

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this week max did an excellent job while

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you and max did an excellent job with

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the videos that you did live from san

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marino um but let's just touch upon

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where we're at if that's okay am i right

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in saying that it's now in the hands of

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the the representatives within the

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government of san marino as to

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when and if they take this to the united

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nations

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yeah um you know of course they want to

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make sure what they do they don't do it

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in a vacuum um you know what they're

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trying to do right now is make sure that

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other countries um support this and that

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makes political sense you know you don't

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want to you don't want to do something

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prematurely and it winds up you know

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creating some sort of discord

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politically with other other countries

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and allies and friends

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san marino is a very small country but

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it's also one of the world's oldest

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republics

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it's really interesting politically they

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have two presidents and those presidents

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are only in power for six months at a

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it's really the ultimate of sharing

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power right so here in our country we

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have one president and a congress and

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whatnot there they have two uh and

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they're only there for for again six

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months just long enough to not cause any

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harm right so um you know there's it's

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in a way it's an advantage um

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but also in a way it's a bit of a

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disadvantage because every six months

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you have to kind of re-spin up an

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administration on what's important so i

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do think the timing's right our italian

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friends have done a fantastic job both

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the cu and and and icer

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um those two organizations as well have

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really done a lot to help set the stage

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to have this conversation in san marino

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and i think ultimately what we're

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looking at is the opportunity to create

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a geneva-like

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structure where you have a the world can

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come together to this tiny little the

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uh and and have a have a comment you

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know it's funny ironically enough it's

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it's it'd be one of the world's smallest

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nations having one of the biggest

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leading one of the biggest conversations

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um and i think i think there's a lot of

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beauty there um you know you don't have

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the politics of

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of other countries whether it's the

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united states or russia or china or you

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know larger european countries um they

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stay relatively immune to those type of

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we are and right now we're trying to

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socialize the idea

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make sure that other countries support

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no that's great thank you i think that

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was leading into kind of my next point

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is whether you personally are planning

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on engaging with other governments

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within some of the other european

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countries you know on a personal level

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is that something you're looking to do

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international engagement being being one

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of the the five fundamental pillars um

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when we when i you know i

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somewhat just told everybody we're

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shifting into third gear that's what i

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meant it was very clear

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it's time to take this conversation

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internationally and not just have the

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conversation but but really start to to

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look at this thing differently you know

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i i one of the things i suggest

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i think one of the greatest hindrances

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we've faced politically anyways

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uh and probably from a media perspective

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has been this notion of you know ufo

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conferences and ufo this and ufo that

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and i'm wondering if maybe maybe the the

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way to handle this now is to rather than

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have a ufo conference

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now that i think we're at the point

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that part of the conversation is over

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we've now proven the reality of these

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things we still don't know what they are

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where they're from or anything like that

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part of the conversation i think what we

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need to do is slowly start

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changing the conversation vis-a-vis a

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ufo conference and instead have a

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foreign affairs conference about ufos so

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rather than have a ufo conference and

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then part of that's about you know

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politics and global politics

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i think maybe the time has come for us

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to to really frame this topic as as a

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foreign affairs topic right yeah it

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involves all of us collectively and that

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you know it's no longer just a ufo

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conversation it's something much bigger

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something much more meaningful

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it's hey look we now know the reality of

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these things what does this mean for us

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as a country what does this mean for us

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internationally and as a world

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uh inter and intra agency uh efforts

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within within governments um and within

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organizations and big international

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if you will institutions like the united

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nations like nato and i i think we're

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we're slowly beginning to to see that

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where the narrative is

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has is going from once conspiratorial

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little cartoons like that to now want to

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pay you know this is

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this really is on the world stage this

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is a serious conversation

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it does involve foreign politics it

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involves foreign relations uh and

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diplomacy and maybe we need to start

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framing framing the conversation in that

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yeah i agree but i mean recently we've

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heard specifically here in the uk that

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they were somewhat uncooperative with

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the uap task force and obviously now

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with the national defense authorization

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act specifying information from allies

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do you think that that might change i

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mean it's quite speculative but

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you know you know i don't want to speak

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for the uk government but i do i think i

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think that they are

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will come along i think that the uk

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government has to be very mindful of of

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public image right uh the

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the uk government uh like the american

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government or governments

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really tries hard to maintain its

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credibility with the people and and that

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makes sense from a governmental

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perspective um so historically when they

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said nothing to see here folks it's kind

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of hard to go back on that right so

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i think what you start seeing is this

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undertone of cooperation between the

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united states and the uk um maybe not

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overtly at first but but you know i

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think there are or existing uh

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relationships bilateral multilateral

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relationships that we have with our very

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good friends in the uk um for example

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the 5i partnership

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so historically we've been we've been

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very close we've we've shared

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information together we've fought wars

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together um so i i do think that that's

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going to happen but you know in the long

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run that's that's really not up

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that's not up for

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me or the united states even to to

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decide that's up for the uk decide the

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uk to decide and this goes for any

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country who decides they don't want to

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be part of the conversation

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then don't but you know

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you're going to get left behind in the

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conversation if you're not in a

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conversation then then you can't be part

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of you know formulating the narrative

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and and then you know if you're not part

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of that then you're victim to it so you

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know my only fair word of warning would

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be look you know

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don't let the train pass you by you know

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you can be selective on which car you

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want to jump on great but but i wouldn't

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let that train leave the station and and

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leave you behind yeah do you think it

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would be a good time as well for sort of

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uap advocates to re-engage with mps and

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lords within

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the british government and defense

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oversight committee i do i think if we

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can frame it any in a

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again into a foreign affairs

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conversation you know the problem is we

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we we always say things like you know

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hey we don't want on the truth we know

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they're from the pleiades and you know

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elves on the mothership and you need to

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get engaged well

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you're not going to get a whole lot of

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support that way when you start saying

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look other countries countries are

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getting involved in this conversation

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there is a national security issue here

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and and border sovereignty and there's

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also by the way requirement

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for us to work with our friends and

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allies let's let's not forget that you

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know it could be very easily confused uh

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a uap uh incident with some sort of

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foreign provocation right we've seen

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this already before with the united

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states and and russia where we actually

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had to have a secret agreement between

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the two countries so if someone saw

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something over the north pole we didn't

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start shooting nukes at each other we

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could pick up a phone and be like you

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know hey boris is that you guys or they

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could call up and say you know hey jack

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you know comrade is that you guys um and

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and let's not you know forget that we

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have other examples today right where we

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have countries like india and pakistan

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imagine

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these two countries which you know we

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they're both friends of ours but they

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don't necessarily get along with each

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other what if we had a same incident

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like we did in the 1960s where uh you

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know a a nuclear

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missile facility was disabled right by

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uap and now one of those countries

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confuses it as some sort of provocation

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you know there's a gentleman in uh in

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india named sabir hussein

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who was actually one of the first ones

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to bring this to the attention of some

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folks and he tried to bring it up to to

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their um i guess you call it a supreme

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court it works a little bit differently

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there in india but he tried to raise you

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know it and and good for him for doing

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so because that's that's a real

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potential problem it's not like it's

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it's fanciful right because we've

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already seen that actually happen

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in the united states and even in russia

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so um

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i i do think it's important we start

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having that conversation when we talk to

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our elected officials and our

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representatives and our respective

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governments

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i you know start framing this as a

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foreign policy

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issue and less as a conspiratorial

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little green men issue it may turn out

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to be that way

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but to have the conversation on the

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international

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level that we're looking for

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we really have to begin to to mature the

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conversation we can't be stuck in the

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same conversation we've had for the last

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70 years no absolutely and can you talk

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to any benefits that we might have if

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nato were involved as well yeah i mean

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forgive me by the way i've got something

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in my left eye here i went on a little

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little hike this morning i decided to

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to uh do a little sweat sweat to the

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oldies and uh

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i think i got something in my eyes so i

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apologize no no no problem you know nato

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is is uh

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you know

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north atlantic treaty organization right

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it's it's a it's a it's a fundamentally

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uh

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i think um

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balancing agent uh this you know

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obviously during during the iron curtain

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days you had the warsaw pact and nato

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um

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you know nato is more of a military

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organization

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but that does have some other other

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functions as well i think nato is

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important from a uap perspective

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i want to make sure uh because why well

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because they're flying around all the

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time with with aircraft and sometimes

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aircraft are armed and again we don't

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want to confuse uap with any type of

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provocation

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and they also have a lot of sensors that

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they can use to help collect additional

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information for us so so i do think nato

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is important but i also think that it i

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at the time

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and i'll share this with you i think

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i think we need to start taking this

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conversation outside of military

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channels and intelligence channels and

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opening the aperture so you know up

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until this point we've been talking in

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my country to the senate armed services

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committee the senate select committee

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intelligence

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um

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but i think maybe the time has come to

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maybe you know open it's up to the

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foreign affairs committee right why not

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and bringing state department doesn't

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have to be just department of defense

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and the intelligence community and

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department of energy

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let's bring in the state department and

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maybe let's do that internationally as

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well let's let's start making this a

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geopolitical issue right which is what

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it really is at the end of the day it

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really is and and there's parts of this

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conversation that really don't belong in

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the national defense arena i don't think

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it does it made that very clear

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so

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i think when we when we talk about this

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conversation whether it's to nato or the

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united nations or to to uk parliament

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you know if if your listeners are out

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there and they want to get some traction

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on this

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we need to we need to up our game we

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need to begin to elevate the

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conversation to where it belongs right

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and out of the the world of the the

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silliness and conspiracy and into the

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into the world of reality right and

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international politics and foreign

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policy that's that would be my

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my suggestion and nato does play a part

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in it but they don't play the only part

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of it right no i think that's i think

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that's good and i think people will be

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pleased to

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hear that it isn't just

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being spoken about within sort of

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military realms of the countries so i

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think that's a really positive way the

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conversation started there it had to

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start there and i know a lot of people

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really resented itself fear-mongering

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threat threat threat but you know

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whatever you know do a better job if you

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think you can be my guest

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we had to start a conversation somewhere

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and that's where we started it yeah but

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that's not where the conversation ends

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and and this is i've told people a long

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time ago we have a road map we're doing

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this very diligently you know this is

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this is a marathon um you know if if you

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don't have the patience for it then then

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then pick up a hobby you know pick up

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the piano go pick up the violin and

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check back in in five years you know or

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you know what do it better do a better

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job yourself stop bitching and do it you

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know stop waiting for me to do

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everything for you and chris mellon and

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other folks you know otherwise if you

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like what we're doing then

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you know

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a simple thank you would do and we'll

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continue doing what we're doing and i

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think we are helping with the

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conversation i think it's it's becoming

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now the the global conversation that we

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we set it out to be now i'll tell you

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too in that same same regard

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the majority of people on ufo twitter

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have been very helpful to this they have

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been doing exactly what they should be

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doing they've been talking and writing

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into their elected officials their their

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letters are super super high quality

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and it's making a difference because

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they're not being silly they're they're

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being

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serious and they're having a great

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elevated conversation with their elected

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officials and they're making calls right

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and they're not sounding conspiratorial

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and and

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well quite frankly you know uh

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unhinged uh they're coming across as

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fair-minded and rational and that's

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working that's exactly what we need to

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have this conversation and continue to

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take it to the next level that's amazing

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good to hear that it's making a

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difference i mean i've got to

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give a shout out to louise jimenez and

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the guys at the uh unidentified

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celebrity reviews absolutely the big

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phone home you know these things do work

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um so vinnie we're with max uh and uh

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moscowitz in in san marino

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and uh you know he got a chance to see

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kind of a backstage play politically how

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this is playing out and i i'm certainly

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not gonna speak for max but

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you know i was glad that he was there

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because

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journalists aren't usually offered that

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inside perspective right and and he had

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a hell of an inside perspective he got

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to see things that

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that probably publicly um you know would

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never be mentioned and he was in the

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front row seat watching it all unfold

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and i think that's that was very helpful

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um it was helpful for us because it

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showed that people were taking this

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serious in the media but i think it also

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helped maybe max a little bit because he

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knew that there were

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professionals inside

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other governments that were taking this

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topic very seriously there was a lot of

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representation at this

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at this uh at this little little meeting

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we had um

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there in san marino there were there

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were some pretty

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senior people from other countries that

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were participating in this little this

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little conference that we had with icer

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and the cun

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and um you know it's the con every time

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i've gone to one of these over the years

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last couple years it keeps getting

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better and better um

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no longer are people selling mood rings

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and beads and and you know things like

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that outside

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these are are you know

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you have astrophysicists you have

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aerospace uh directors of aerospace

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organizations there and they're

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listening and they're having

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conversations

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no one's trying to sell anybody anything

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other than um you know have a

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conversation

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and that's that's meaningful it's

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working because we're we're

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the the topic of uap is no longer one

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about um

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personal narratives and agendas and

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conspiracies it's it's now about reality

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facts data science right and and it's

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resonating

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that's amazing to hear and that does

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just show how far we've come and i think

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it will continue to to go in a positive

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direction so no good to hear thank you

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for that um i'd like to switch this

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round and first of all start by

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congratulating you on the recent

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announcement that you're bringing out

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book so

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congratulations on that now

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thank you a lot of people saw this

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headline article within the hollywood

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reporter that the book will reveal

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shocking details

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and now we all know what people on

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social media like a lot of are

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speculating and making claims that it's

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a pay for disclosure tactic which

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of course they're going to um can you

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just set the record straight please and

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so we can yeah i mean first of all what

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i'll say is that i'm writing the book um

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second of all is that the the intended

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audience is for a lot of people that

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have never even gone to ufo twitter

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and uh you know what i will say and i

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won't go into any more detail than this

558
00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:24,799
is that

559
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:26,240
the purpose of the book is going to be

560
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:28,000
very very apparent when it comes out and

561
00:18:32,390 --> 00:18:29,760
i think people people who know me are

562
00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:32,400
going to be like ah that clever guy

563
00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:34,080
people who don't know me are going to

564
00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,480
probably wind up having to eat some of

565
00:18:40,230 --> 00:18:38,880
their words um you know they're it's

566
00:18:41,750 --> 00:18:40,240
it's funny to watch social media and

567
00:18:43,590 --> 00:18:41,760
people go way out on a limb and start

568
00:18:45,590 --> 00:18:43,600
making speculation while speculation i

569
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:45,600
have to make right about to pay for pay

570
00:18:50,230 --> 00:18:48,000
for play okay well think that if you

571
00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:50,240
want to but when the book comes out and

572
00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:52,480
and people really go they read it and go

573
00:18:56,950 --> 00:18:54,960
holy crap we this is

574
00:18:58,950 --> 00:18:56,960
now this makes sense now we understand

575
00:18:59,909 --> 00:18:58,960
why you did the way you did it when you

576
00:19:02,470 --> 00:18:59,919
did it

577
00:19:05,350 --> 00:19:02,480
um you know

578
00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:05,360
you know will they apologize no

579
00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:07,600
they'll go hide in the little deep dark

580
00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:09,440
you know corners of twitterverse and

581
00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:11,120
maybe change their name or something uh

582
00:19:14,070 --> 00:19:12,720
but i'm used to it you know for the last

583
00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:14,080
three four years i've been used to

584
00:19:17,029 --> 00:19:14,960
people

585
00:19:18,630 --> 00:19:17,039
always accusing me of one thing um

586
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,640
they're never happy no matter what you

587
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:20,640
do for them no matter how you do it you

588
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:22,640
know it's you've just got people that

589
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:24,240
are sharp shooting you they're throwing

590
00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:26,320
rocks i don't know why that is

591
00:19:30,390 --> 00:19:27,440
it's sad

592
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:30,400
yeah um you know i really hope that

593
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:32,400
those type of people find whatever piece

594
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:33,440
they're

595
00:19:39,430 --> 00:19:37,360
you know but if there's one thing you

596
00:19:40,789 --> 00:19:39,440
know my track record speaks for itself

597
00:19:42,310 --> 00:19:40,799
people should know me now at this point

598
00:19:43,669 --> 00:19:42,320
that i'm not a money grab kind of guy i

599
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:43,679
do things very deliberately very

600
00:19:47,270 --> 00:19:45,200
strategically

601
00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:47,280
and again i i think the the book is

602
00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:48,880
going to serve a very specific purpose

603
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:50,000
and i think people are going to be

604
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:53,200
delighted when it comes out um you know

605
00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:55,280
that's that's that's where we are with

606
00:19:59,750 --> 00:19:56,640
that i'm i'm not going to go into much

607
00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,760
more detail than that so um but it's i

608
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:01,440
think it's going to be

609
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,600
very very eye-opening and i think people

610
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:05,280
are going to come back and say holy cow

611
00:20:08,789 --> 00:20:07,039
wow that was exactly the way to do it

612
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:08,799
and by the way it's my narrative so you

613
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:10,240
know when i sit there and i and i do an

614
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:13,600
interview on on a like a news major news

615
00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:15,919
media these are like two to three minute

616
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,799
sound bites yeah and it's not it and by

617
00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:20,799
the way i don't control their editing

618
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,919
this is

619
00:20:26,789 --> 00:20:24,240
my narrative from my perspective without

620
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,799
any filter you get to read exactly how i

621
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:28,640
feel about every single thing about this

622
00:20:31,430 --> 00:20:29,600
topic

623
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,440
moving forward and there is going to be

624
00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,960
there's going to be some some

625
00:20:35,510 --> 00:20:34,720
information in there that i

626
00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:35,520
i

627
00:20:56,470 --> 00:20:54,720
say thank you so much for that um are

628
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:56,480
you able to give us any like eta on when

629
00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:58,400
we can expect to see it

630
00:21:04,149 --> 00:21:00,840
uh i can't you know i uh

631
00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:04,159
i'm very busy it's going to take me a

632
00:21:07,669 --> 00:21:05,520
little bit of time

633
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:07,679
sure you know i'm i'm dancing as fast as

634
00:21:12,549 --> 00:21:08,640
i can

635
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,559
example like in a couple days i've got

636
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:14,240
to be back in dc and then i've got some

637
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,080
more travel and it's uh you know

638
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,000
somewhere in there i've gotta i've gotta

639
00:21:22,630 --> 00:21:20,080
find some time to really just you know i

640
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:22,640
understand completely do you mind it is

641
00:21:27,110 --> 00:21:25,039
the dc thing inspector general related

642
00:21:29,909 --> 00:21:27,120
can you can you elaborate on that at all

643
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,919
um too early for me to discuss that it

644
00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:31,600
is it is related to the topic and i'll

645
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,159
leave it at that fabulous no i i respect

646
00:21:37,909 --> 00:21:36,000
it well i try to avoid dc as much as

647
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:37,919
possible i don't go to dc unless i have

648
00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:40,880
to go to dc and it's about this topic um

649
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:42,080
that's why i live out in the middle of

650
00:21:46,789 --> 00:21:45,120
nowhere wyoming because i've had my fill

651
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,799
of dc and no offense to those who live

652
00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:48,080
in dc but

653
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:49,280
you know that's a that's a young

654
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:51,919
person's game i'm uh i'm just too old i

655
00:21:57,669 --> 00:21:53,840
tell people this is gray not blonde you

656
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,679
know i'm an old guy and uh the the

657
00:22:01,590 --> 00:21:59,520
the further i can stay away from

658
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,600
washington dc the better

659
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,600
not my sanity

660
00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:06,000
fair enough completely now lou something

661
00:22:09,190 --> 00:22:07,440
that is brought up regularly with

662
00:22:10,149 --> 00:22:09,200
yourself especially recently has been

663
00:22:13,110 --> 00:22:10,159
this

664
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:13,120
super obvious sensor system

665
00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:16,320
that i get bombarded with questions and

666
00:22:20,070 --> 00:22:17,760
things about so i kind of felt like i

667
00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:20,080
had to bring it up with you but

668
00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:21,520
are you able to talk about it because

669
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:24,000
i've got some

670
00:22:27,190 --> 00:22:25,440
ideas or

671
00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:27,200
of what we think it is and me this is me

672
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:28,880
and all the colleagues in the community

673
00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:31,280
if if we can we discuss it can you put

674
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:33,440
it to bed for us because i i won't i

675
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,840
won't i won't i won't answer i won't

676
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:37,600
confirm or deny because what i don't

677
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,760
want to do is is

678
00:22:44,549 --> 00:22:41,360
be preemptive

679
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,559
it is it is ridiculously

680
00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:46,480
simple um

681
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,640
but it it takes a little bit of time and

682
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:50,480
resources to do it

683
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,039
and uh what i want to do is it doesn't

684
00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:54,960
rely solely on like a thing it's not

685
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,640
like a you know a sensor that it put

686
00:23:01,190 --> 00:22:58,720
down and it's a little bit more complex

687
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,200
than that but the data

688
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:03,280
what i will say is that um we have every

689
00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:04,960
reason to believe that the data already

690
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:07,039
exists it's already out there and it's

691
00:23:10,230 --> 00:23:08,640
been right under our noses the whole

692
00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:10,240
time

693
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:11,360
wow

694
00:23:15,029 --> 00:23:13,039
that that kind of

695
00:23:17,029 --> 00:23:15,039
i'm going to have to go back and dig

696
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,039
at some point we will talk about it once

697
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:18,880
we can get the data and if it turns out

698
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:19,919
that it doesn't work we'll tell

699
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:21,760
everybody to look this this was a dead

700
00:23:26,950 --> 00:23:25,039
end but but right now it's uh

701
00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:26,960
most of the folks the scientists are not

702
00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:29,520
in your head saying yeah that actually

703
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:32,159
that that could be it

704
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:33,039
wow

705
00:23:37,190 --> 00:23:34,080
that's

706
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,200
intriguing still but no i respect your

707
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:38,960
your position on that so

708
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:40,720
guys for everyone watching i tried i

709
00:23:48,149 --> 00:23:46,230
um right let's move on then um one thing

710
00:23:49,830 --> 00:23:48,159
that um i saw recently and a lot of

711
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,840
other people have spoke to me about is

712
00:23:53,590 --> 00:23:51,840
an is an interview that tom delong did

713
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,600
recently now i'm not going to ask for

714
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,960
you to speak on behalf of tom or

715
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:56,960
anything but he talked about the three

716
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,720
videos that came out through ttsa you

717
00:24:02,789 --> 00:24:00,960
know the three navy videos that we all

718
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:02,799
know so well but he said there were

719
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:05,039
actually 26 videos

720
00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:07,679
one specifically of a craft 10 feet away

721
00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:10,000
from an f18 scanning the plane for 20

722
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:12,240
minutes now this sounds familiar

723
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:14,000
you know add three minutes onto that and

724
00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:15,279
it's the thing we've been talking about

725
00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:16,799
for a while now

726
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,520
one thing that tom said and i quote we

727
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,159
almost got that one out

728
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,400
is is that something you're aware of did

729
00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,000
we come close to getting that video out

730
00:24:30,950 --> 00:24:27,840
in the past you know i can't speak for

731
00:24:33,269 --> 00:24:30,960
tom um i love the guy i really do uh

732
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:33,279
yeah but uh

733
00:24:36,549 --> 00:24:34,400
you know um

734
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,559
[Music]

735
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:38,400
tom's tom

736
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,640
yeah i think we know that

737
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:42,720
sometimes tom says things

738
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:46,159
uh that even i have to look and say what

739
00:24:50,789 --> 00:24:48,320
okay where'd you get that

740
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:50,799
um but um

741
00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:52,480
you know again i i don't want to speak

742
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,559
for tom um you know i i i'm very

743
00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:58,320
if you

744
00:25:03,430 --> 00:25:01,120
chris and i are very measured in what we

745
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:03,440
say i'd rather i'd rather under promise

746
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:06,080
and over deliver that's kind of my mo um

747
00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:07,840
i know it drives people crazy and they

748
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:09,360
start losing patience and we want to

749
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:11,440
know now i get it

750
00:25:17,669 --> 00:25:14,559
but but there's nothing worse than than

751
00:25:19,269 --> 00:25:17,679
over promising something and so um

752
00:25:21,269 --> 00:25:19,279
you know i i'm very care what i have

753
00:25:23,750 --> 00:25:21,279
said is what i have said for the record

754
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,760
and it's it's that type of stuff that

755
00:25:29,430 --> 00:25:26,000
will someday hopefully soon continue to

756
00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:29,440
be established and reaffirmed

757
00:25:34,149 --> 00:25:32,000
everything i've ever said to to about

758
00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:34,159
this topic uh has always been truthful

759
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,679
and has always come to fruition and

760
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:37,440
hopefully people might now realize that

761
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,200
i've lived breadcrumbs for three and a

762
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,440
half or four years on this topic

763
00:25:45,029 --> 00:25:43,120
and every single one of those things

764
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,039
have come to fruition

765
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,279
but i'm also very measured i i don't

766
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,880
like to over promise because i don't

767
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:50,559
want to disappoint anybody i don't want

768
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:53,039
you to to anybody's expectation any type

769
00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:56,000
of false expectations it's really really

770
00:25:59,510 --> 00:25:57,200
important

771
00:26:01,990 --> 00:25:59,520
especially on this topic because it is

772
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:02,000
it is so emotional for so many people

773
00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:04,240
and and there is an expectation for me

774
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:04,960
to

775
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:07,840
the truth

776
00:26:11,750 --> 00:26:09,440
there's an expectation people have and

777
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:11,760
it's expectation i have of myself

778
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:14,240
so for that reason um a lot of times i

779
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:16,000
just i tend to be

780
00:26:20,710 --> 00:26:18,960
uh a little bit more subdued

781
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:20,720
simply because uh

782
00:26:24,390 --> 00:26:22,559
you know i don't i don't want to i don't

783
00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:24,400
want to do anything and set anybody's

784
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:26,159
expectations and all of a sudden i fail

785
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:28,080
to deliver even a little bit

786
00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:29,760
on that um

787
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,760
so if you look at my my twitter page i

788
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,520
always say on there you know i will

789
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,000
always own my own mistakes and i will

790
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:38,480
and and i do uh at least the mistakes

791
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,840
that i realize i make right there's

792
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,520
those you can you can't the ones that

793
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:43,200
you don't realize you make then you know

794
00:26:46,470 --> 00:26:45,039
those are the ones that get you usually

795
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:46,480
um

796
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:50,400
that's my perspective i really i'm not

797
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:52,640
gonna comment on what tom

798
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:54,799
says or does thomas tom

799
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,159
sure uh you know and um i guess that's

800
00:27:02,950 --> 00:27:00,480
that no that's great no worries thank

801
00:27:05,110 --> 00:27:02,960
you i mean i think we all know that tom

802
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:05,120
some statements um do go out there a

803
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:06,400
little bit so

804
00:27:09,909 --> 00:27:08,080
no that's fine

805
00:27:11,830 --> 00:27:09,919
um let's talk about this new ai tool i

806
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:11,840
know you've mentioned it again but um is

807
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,840
this the one is it related to the scouts

808
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,080
or that ttsa were working on or is this

809
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,559
a completely new platform

810
00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:21,039
well uh

811
00:27:24,950 --> 00:27:23,039
[\h__\h] i'm almost tempted to share a

812
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:24,960
screen and show you a little little dry

813
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:26,720
run i don't know if uh i can do that

814
00:27:29,669 --> 00:27:28,320
would you be okay with that yes

815
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:29,679
absolutely

816
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:31,760
okay let me see if i can do this stand

817
00:27:36,149 --> 00:27:33,440
by let me first pull this up yeah let's

818
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,669
i'm going to pull this up first before i

819
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:39,120
share the screen because i know you have

820
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:40,480
some very clever people that will

821
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:43,039
absolutely screen every single thing i

822
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:44,000
do

823
00:27:55,029 --> 00:27:52,070
i'm probably gonna get myself in trouble

824
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,470
give me a second here

825
00:28:02,070 --> 00:27:58,000
yeah no problem

826
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:03,990
okay so here's here it is here's the

827
00:28:09,830 --> 00:28:07,919
case study and what i'm going to do um

828
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:09,840
let me let me caveat a few things here

829
00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,760
first okay when i do just because i

830
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:13,360
don't want anybody let me see i can

831
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:19,510
okay

832
00:28:22,789 --> 00:28:20,880
see i don't know how i can share this

833
00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:22,799
screen without all of a sudden everybody

834
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,919
and their mother looking at it let me

835
00:28:26,630 --> 00:28:25,200
see if i can do it this way yeah i can

836
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,640
do it this way

837
00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:29,279
okay let's try this

838
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,600
let me come back to you

839
00:28:36,710 --> 00:28:34,000
zoom no i'm not on zoom

840
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:36,720
i'm on steam yard right stream yeah yeah

841
00:28:44,149 --> 00:28:42,549
and then at the bottom of the screen on

842
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:44,159
the stream yard there's the share button

843
00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:45,600
if you click that then i can add your

844
00:28:51,590 --> 00:28:48,960
screen okay let's try this boom

845
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,600
uh video share screen okay

846
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,080
your screen

847
00:28:57,990 --> 00:28:56,399
uh i would like to record this computer

848
00:28:59,990 --> 00:28:58,000
screen so i'm allowing you to record it

849
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,000
is that correct yeah that just allows it

850
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,159
to go into the live feed

851
00:29:07,269 --> 00:29:04,960
okay uh sure

852
00:29:09,390 --> 00:29:07,279
is it sharing right now or no i'm not

853
00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:09,400
seeing anything now

854
00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:10,720
[Music]

855
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:12,320
let's see here entire screen here i'm

856
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,360
trying to here we go let's try that

857
00:29:18,710 --> 00:29:16,880
is it working now no

858
00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,720
no

859
00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:20,480
it says chrome has lost permission to

860
00:29:25,269 --> 00:29:22,880
capture your screen okay follow these

861
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:25,279
steps oh my goodness i'm so sorry

862
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:26,770
i know don't worry about it

863
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:32,549
yes browser chrome

864
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:32,990
um

865
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:34,080
[Music]

866
00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:43,269
the app it says

867
00:29:48,310 --> 00:29:44,950
well i'll tell you what let me walk you

868
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:48,320
through it um so

869
00:29:52,230 --> 00:29:50,880
that's obviously not going to work

870
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:52,240
see this is why i don't like to over

871
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,760
promise right because then it never

872
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,279
works out so

873
00:29:59,430 --> 00:29:57,600
uh what i did is sorry people in the

874
00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:59,440
chat saying can you send it to vinnie is

875
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:00,640
this something you're allowed to share

876
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:03,360
with me it's huge file so it's a video

877
00:30:06,149 --> 00:30:05,039
that was taken on a military

878
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,159
installation

879
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,640
by an individual who who was a military

880
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:10,480
officer who said they saw a black flying

881
00:30:14,549 --> 00:30:11,440
disc

882
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,559
and uh it was hovering and uh so we the

883
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:16,559
video was poor quality we apply some ai

884
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:18,159
to it and all of a sudden we show what

885
00:30:21,029 --> 00:30:19,760
the ai can do and there's this black

886
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:21,039
covering disk

887
00:30:25,510 --> 00:30:23,600
and then we apply the ai to it to look

888
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,520
at the background the pixelation the

889
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,080
object itself and what i will say is

890
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:30,240
that um things aren't always what they

891
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,600
seem and

892
00:30:36,149 --> 00:30:33,440
it's very the point to this whole

893
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:36,159
exercise was it's very very important

894
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:37,840
that

895
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:40,159
quality of data

896
00:30:46,950 --> 00:30:43,600
is it's imperative because

897
00:30:48,870 --> 00:30:46,960
you need to be able to not only prove

898
00:30:51,029 --> 00:30:48,880
something is authentic but you also need

899
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,039
to be able to prove that it is not

900
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,520
authentic right or that there's

901
00:30:58,230 --> 00:30:56,399
something else going on um and in order

902
00:31:00,389 --> 00:30:58,240
to separate the signal from the noise

903
00:31:02,710 --> 00:31:00,399
because ultimately that's the type of

904
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:02,720
data that gets people to really

905
00:31:06,070 --> 00:31:04,480
to really listen

906
00:31:07,269 --> 00:31:06,080
and i have a presentation here that i

907
00:31:10,389 --> 00:31:07,279
provided

908
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:10,399
when i was in san marino i think it was

909
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:11,919
recorded but that was the pre i was

910
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:12,640
going to show you part of that

911
00:31:17,110 --> 00:31:15,120
presentation now okay and i think it it

912
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,120
really helps people really grasp where

913
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:19,039
we are people look at that they go oh

914
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:20,399
okay because i

915
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,760
i talked about in some detail the five

916
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:24,080
pillars of engagement i talk about what

917
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,760
we've been collectively able to achieve

918
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,279
in the last three years then i talk

919
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,200
about what we're doing right now things

920
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:30,640
that are happening right now behind the

921
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:32,559
scenes and then i talk about where do we

922
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:34,159
go into the future what what is what

923
00:31:38,710 --> 00:31:36,480
does tomorrow look like and so i have

924
00:31:40,230 --> 00:31:38,720
some some ideas construct of what a

925
00:31:42,389 --> 00:31:40,240
federal lab would look like and who's

926
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:42,399
all participating and then i go into

927
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:44,399
some technology we talk about the ai and

928
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:46,080
i actually do a dry run i actually show

929
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,559
hey look boom boom boom boom boom and by

930
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:49,840
the time we're done people are kind of

931
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:52,000
like wow holy smokes that's going to be

932
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:53,360
available to all of us and we're like

933
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,600
lots we're working on i mean it ain't

934
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:58,080
cheap but you know that's that's that's

935
00:32:01,430 --> 00:31:59,519
what we're we're in the process of

936
00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:01,440
building uh is that file sorry to

937
00:32:04,870 --> 00:32:02,880
interrupt is that file something you can

938
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,880
send me that i can then share with my

939
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,279
with everyone at a later date

940
00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:09,120
yeah i mean if i'm i'm getting it to

941
00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:11,200
skype for it on wii transfer because it

942
00:32:17,029 --> 00:32:14,880
is such a huge file so sean and jake and

943
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,039
jess will have it and and more than

944
00:32:21,110 --> 00:32:19,600
happy to share it with you

945
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:21,120
yeah i think you'll find it i mean most

946
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,720
people when they see it they're at that

947
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:24,559
point they're kind of like oh okay we we

948
00:32:29,029 --> 00:32:26,640
get it this is yeah yeah you this is

949
00:32:30,310 --> 00:32:29,039
this is the the road map of of how we

950
00:32:32,070 --> 00:32:30,320
got to where we are today and you're

951
00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,080
right this is we this is probably the

952
00:32:35,029 --> 00:32:33,760
way we should probably be leaning to go

953
00:32:36,549 --> 00:32:35,039
in the future

954
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:36,559
um

955
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,120
anyways so no it's fantastic so just

956
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,760
because everyone in the in the chats

957
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,880
on the edge of their seats they're

958
00:32:46,870 --> 00:32:44,799
wanting to see let me try one more time

959
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:46,880
here yeah let's do it i'm sorry guys

960
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:49,919
let's just try this again

961
00:32:54,149 --> 00:32:51,600
all right let's let's see if we can get

962
00:32:55,669 --> 00:32:54,159
this thing up and running

963
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:55,679
i'm going to try one more time okay so

964
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:58,000
i've got this up here

965
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:00,000
yep boom

966
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:11,509
share screen yep share screen

967
00:33:14,789 --> 00:33:12,480
to my

968
00:33:16,389 --> 00:33:14,799
share screen

969
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:16,399
entire screen

970
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:18,320
yep

971
00:33:26,070 --> 00:33:24,470
share

972
00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:26,080
it says chrome has lost permission to

973
00:33:31,350 --> 00:33:28,159
capture your screen so for whatever

974
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:31,360
reason chrome isn't letting me do it um

975
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,279
i apologize

976
00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:35,120
no no honestly it's not your fault it's

977
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,960
i i've not had this issue before so

978
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:38,640
unfortunately i i don't know what to say

979
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:40,559
so see here i'm telling people i wanna i

980
00:33:44,549 --> 00:33:42,799
wanna you know uh uh under promise over

981
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:44,559
deliver and here's a perfect example

982
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:46,799
right you try try to try to do something

983
00:33:51,590 --> 00:33:50,000
man and you crash and burn so uh

984
00:33:53,350 --> 00:33:51,600
like you said you you said you'd send it

985
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:53,360
to me so for everyone watching when i

986
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,960
get it from lou yeah we'll get we'll get

987
00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:56,480
it out to folks i'll put a video out on

988
00:34:01,669 --> 00:33:58,480
youtube or something and you know so

989
00:34:04,070 --> 00:34:01,679
yeah great um can we just ask about the

990
00:34:05,430 --> 00:34:04,080
when the tool is released to the public

991
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:05,440
is that is it gonna be an app is it

992
00:34:09,909 --> 00:34:08,079
going to be internet-based software or

993
00:34:12,389 --> 00:34:09,919
what's it what format we're working on

994
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,399
that now you know the problem is it's

995
00:34:15,349 --> 00:34:14,159
it's expensive look at first of all

996
00:34:17,589 --> 00:34:15,359
there's some there's some there's some

997
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:17,599
pros and cons to ai first of all ai is

998
00:34:20,389 --> 00:34:18,480
great

999
00:34:22,470 --> 00:34:20,399
uh because it never gets tired it works

1000
00:34:23,829 --> 00:34:22,480
24 7. it doesn't you know suffer from

1001
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:23,839
human fatigue

1002
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:25,839
but there's also some limitations

1003
00:34:29,669 --> 00:34:27,919
first of all not all ai is created

1004
00:34:31,909 --> 00:34:29,679
equally two

1005
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:31,919
a.i if you don't train it right you have

1006
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:34,240
to ai is only as good as its teacher and

1007
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,720
humans or this teacher

1008
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:38,399
if if you don't train it right in the

1009
00:34:41,510 --> 00:34:39,520
beginning

1010
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:41,520
problems and misidentifications will

1011
00:34:46,149 --> 00:34:43,760
propagate uh forever so if i for example

1012
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:46,159
say on the ai that this is a car not a

1013
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,280
cell phone

1014
00:34:51,750 --> 00:34:49,040
from that day forward every time it sees

1015
00:34:53,349 --> 00:34:51,760
this it'll call it a car right and then

1016
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,359
false analytics are further applied to

1017
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:54,800
it it just gets it's like a cancer just

1018
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:56,240
grows gross growth so

1019
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,119
uh

1020
00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:59,040
we we're working on that there's also a

1021
00:35:03,109 --> 00:35:01,440
massive upfront cost associated with it

1022
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,119
it will be free there'll be a version

1023
00:35:06,390 --> 00:35:05,359
that's free for everybody to use

1024
00:35:09,589 --> 00:35:06,400
um

1025
00:35:11,270 --> 00:35:09,599
you know it's uh it ain't cheap uh we've

1026
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,280
got some really really good people that

1027
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,800
are working some of the best ai people

1028
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,720
frankly in in the world in my opinion

1029
00:35:18,230 --> 00:35:16,480
that are working on this

1030
00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:18,240
um and they're putting a lot of time and

1031
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:20,320
money and effort into it so

1032
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:22,000
there will be there will be hopefully a

1033
00:35:26,310 --> 00:35:23,680
free version there will be a free

1034
00:35:27,589 --> 00:35:26,320
version just hopefully soon uh we want

1035
00:35:29,349 --> 00:35:27,599
to work out the bugs the last thing we

1036
00:35:31,030 --> 00:35:29,359
want to do is make the mistake that

1037
00:35:32,550 --> 00:35:31,040
other people do you provide something

1038
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:32,560
that's supposed to be an answer all for

1039
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:34,720
everybody and all of a sudden it's it's

1040
00:35:37,990 --> 00:35:36,640
not ready for prime time right and it's

1041
00:35:38,950 --> 00:35:38,000
important to becoming a miserable

1042
00:35:41,670 --> 00:35:38,960
failure

1043
00:35:42,630 --> 00:35:41,680
um i don't want to do that no

1044
00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:42,640
again

1045
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:44,720
back to to under promise over deliver

1046
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:46,079
that's that's what we're trying to do

1047
00:35:48,069 --> 00:35:47,119
and by the way we've been working on

1048
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,079
this for

1049
00:35:51,750 --> 00:35:50,160
for a few years now behind the scenes um

1050
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:51,760
i haven't provided an update to it

1051
00:35:55,349 --> 00:35:53,440
because i didn't think there was any

1052
00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:55,359
update to provide until we had something

1053
00:35:58,950 --> 00:35:57,760
yeah that makes sense excellent

1054
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,960
i'm going to move on to some questions

1055
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,640
that were submitted through my uh some

1056
00:36:05,910 --> 00:36:03,200
of my social medias um so this one is

1057
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:05,920
from an an an anonymous

1058
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,280
uh person

1059
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:09,920
um we when it comes to sizes and shapes

1060
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:12,000
of uap have you ever come across

1061
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:14,160
anything on the micro scale when it

1062
00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:15,920
comes to auap

1063
00:36:19,109 --> 00:36:18,400
what a great question um

1064
00:36:21,190 --> 00:36:19,119
no

1065
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:21,200
uh but that doesn't mean anything if you

1066
00:36:24,390 --> 00:36:22,320
look if you're not looking for it then

1067
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:24,400
you don't see it necessarily so i think

1068
00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:26,320
that's a great question um it's

1069
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,000
something that we haven't really we

1070
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:30,079
collectively haven't really considered

1071
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:32,240
um but it's it's certainly possible look

1072
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:35,520
we make micro uavs right so we we we

1073
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:38,480
have technology to do that so i think

1074
00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,240
certainly it's in the realm of of

1075
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,480
possibility frankly maybe even the realm

1076
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:44,640
of likelihood um it's just something we

1077
00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,920
haven't really we haven't really looked

1078
00:36:49,109 --> 00:36:47,119
at yet

1079
00:36:50,470 --> 00:36:49,119
fabulous thank you um this one was

1080
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,480
actually a super chat from our

1081
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:52,160
conversation with gary the other day

1082
00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,400
that i said i i promised that i would

1083
00:36:58,550 --> 00:36:56,640
ask so this is for mr carl vibe

1084
00:37:01,030 --> 00:36:58,560
firstly this is a three-parter first

1085
00:37:01,910 --> 00:37:01,040
will lou go on my show

1086
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,920
true

1087
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,160
there you go next question

1088
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:06,160
can you explain the heavy references to

1089
00:37:11,510 --> 00:37:09,040
greek mythology in the ttsa books and

1090
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,520
the masonic symbols in their cartoons

1091
00:37:14,790 --> 00:37:12,960
i've

1092
00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:14,800
looked again this is a time to long

1093
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:17,040
question uh

1094
00:37:22,150 --> 00:37:19,119
tom tom has admitted he's that's it's a

1095
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:22,160
work of fiction you know and inspired by

1096
00:37:27,670 --> 00:37:25,200
by his perspective um that perspective

1097
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:27,680
isn't necessarily shared by others

1098
00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:30,880
um you know i'm not in ttsa anymore

1099
00:37:33,829 --> 00:37:32,720
neither is chris mellon or steve justice

1100
00:37:34,870 --> 00:37:33,839
or hal

1101
00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:34,880
um

1102
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:36,480
you know

1103
00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:38,240
thomas made it clear he's pursuing

1104
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:39,920
entertainment um

1105
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:41,119
in this topic

1106
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:43,359
and he's entitled to do so and you know

1107
00:37:47,349 --> 00:37:44,720
entertainment can be very effective

1108
00:37:49,589 --> 00:37:47,359
tools for for having a conversation

1109
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:49,599
it's just not my expertise or specialty

1110
00:37:53,349 --> 00:37:51,359
when people say well you're doing a tv

1111
00:37:54,470 --> 00:37:53,359
show and isn't that entertainment well

1112
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:54,480
there's a difference between

1113
00:37:57,750 --> 00:37:56,240
entertainment and infotainment

1114
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:57,760
unfortunately sometimes you have to make

1115
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,280
information a little bit interesting for

1116
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:01,200
people to pay attention yeah i'm not an

1117
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:02,640
entertainer i never have been i never

1118
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:05,839
will be um you know my job is to just

1119
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:07,280
try to present the the truth and the

1120
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:09,920
facts in a consumable way that's it

1121
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:11,599
um i don't consider myself an

1122
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:14,079
entertainer and so entertainment is not

1123
00:38:20,150 --> 00:38:17,680
my thing so books uh secret machines um

1124
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:20,160
you know that him and lavender wrote

1125
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,520
um

1126
00:38:24,950 --> 00:38:23,200
you know i i

1127
00:38:27,589 --> 00:38:24,960
i think according to tom he's got some

1128
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:27,599
theories in there uh that that tom

1129
00:38:30,390 --> 00:38:29,040
subscribes to

1130
00:38:32,950 --> 00:38:30,400
um

1131
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:32,960
but i i can't i can't provide any

1132
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,160
comment it's not

1133
00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:36,240
i don't know that that's fair enough um

1134
00:38:40,550 --> 00:38:38,160
another third and final part of that

1135
00:38:44,829 --> 00:38:40,560
that question or these questions is

1136
00:38:46,790 --> 00:38:44,839
has lou ever been trained in remote

1137
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,800
viewing uh

1138
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,200
let's let's pass on that one for now

1139
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:52,240
so i don't want to uh i don't want to

1140
00:38:57,670 --> 00:38:56,079
what i don't want to do is um

1141
00:38:58,630 --> 00:38:57,680
i don't want to distract from the topic

1142
00:39:00,310 --> 00:38:58,640
at hand

1143
00:39:01,910 --> 00:39:00,320
i don't want i don't want anything in my

1144
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:01,920
past or my background it's already

1145
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:03,520
distraction and people find out certain

1146
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:05,359
things about your background and

1147
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,880
assignments you have and all of a sudden

1148
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:08,240
oh he's a bad guy and he shouldn't do

1149
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:09,359
that i mean

1150
00:39:12,870 --> 00:39:10,800
why would he ever do admission like that

1151
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,880
you know well it was my mission sorry i

1152
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,400
don't want to tell you you know you do

1153
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,839
what you're told when you're when you're

1154
00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:17,359
when you when you serve a government

1155
00:39:21,349 --> 00:39:20,400
yeah um you know that's that's you know

1156
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,359
and if you don't want to then don't

1157
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:23,200
serve your government you know i'm not

1158
00:39:26,069 --> 00:39:25,040
forcing anybody to do that

1159
00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:26,079
um

1160
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:27,760
i i don't want i don't want those

1161
00:39:31,589 --> 00:39:30,160
elements any elements of my background

1162
00:39:33,109 --> 00:39:31,599
to to be a distraction of the

1163
00:39:34,310 --> 00:39:33,119
conversation we're having today and

1164
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:34,320
unfortunately

1165
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:37,599
um it's it it will be any anything in

1166
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,079
someone's background can can always be

1167
00:39:44,950 --> 00:39:42,720
you know viewed in either positive or a

1168
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:44,960
negative way and i i don't want to i

1169
00:39:48,630 --> 00:39:46,640
don't want to distract

1170
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,640
absolutely no problem thank you anyway

1171
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:50,960
um another anonymous question here could

1172
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,680
the 2019 events involving the uss kid

1173
00:39:57,990 --> 00:39:55,680
uss russell and the other navy ships

1174
00:40:00,390 --> 00:39:58,000
actually be a have been a training

1175
00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:00,400
exercise specifically intended to bait

1176
00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:05,589
what a great question

1177
00:40:13,589 --> 00:40:12,390
i probably

1178
00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:13,599
i'm not going to answer that question

1179
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:14,800
because that's a question that probably

1180
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:16,000
the government needs to answer for

1181
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:17,040
itself

1182
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,920
sure

1183
00:40:21,670 --> 00:40:18,720
um

1184
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,680
great great question

1185
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,680
yeah i like that one definitely because

1186
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,359
that was something i was looking into

1187
00:40:28,470 --> 00:40:27,119
for quite some time and i think i asked

1188
00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:28,480
you the bait question on our last

1189
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,680
interview a couple of months ago and

1190
00:40:34,630 --> 00:40:31,920
that that just really fitted together

1191
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,640
for me so i appreciate it um this is a

1192
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:37,119
question from benji um and this is

1193
00:40:41,750 --> 00:40:39,440
another one about baiting can you talk

1194
00:40:43,109 --> 00:40:41,760
to whether these methods of baiting that

1195
00:40:45,270 --> 00:40:43,119
have been used have actually been

1196
00:40:47,829 --> 00:40:45,280
successful

1197
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:47,839
i'm going to take a play password

1198
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:50,000
by the way it is amazing the questions

1199
00:40:52,470 --> 00:40:51,520
now how they have evolved over the last

1200
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,480
three years

1201
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:54,880
before it was you know uh

1202
00:40:58,790 --> 00:40:56,400
questions like uh

1203
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:01,109
is elvis alive right now now the

1204
00:41:07,109 --> 00:41:04,000
questions are like really really good

1205
00:41:09,670 --> 00:41:07,119
very very insightful you know someone's

1206
00:41:11,910 --> 00:41:09,680
been doing their homework for sure yeah

1207
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:11,920
so thank you for those wonderful

1208
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,319
questions um i i suspect we will be able

1209
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:16,160
to answer them soon i just i'm not at

1210
00:41:22,870 --> 00:41:18,720
liberty to to even go down that road

1211
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,880
right now um but um you know those are

1212
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:25,280
quick great keep asking those questions

1213
00:41:30,150 --> 00:41:27,920
i've understood um this one is from

1214
00:41:32,069 --> 00:41:30,160
graham when you joined atib did you ever

1215
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:32,079
consider it was simply a make work

1216
00:41:36,150 --> 00:41:34,560
project and a waste of time even though

1217
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:36,160
you may have had assurances when being

1218
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:37,760
invited to join

1219
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,280
no absolutely not it was never a waste

1220
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:41,280
of time it was it was money well spent

1221
00:41:44,790 --> 00:41:42,240
in fact

1222
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,800
um the u.s taxpayer got got one hell of

1223
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:47,040
a deal out of it for the for the 22

1224
00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:49,359
million dollars we we we dual use the

1225
00:41:53,349 --> 00:41:52,079
hell out of it man we we we got [\h__\h] up

1226
00:41:55,030 --> 00:41:53,359
to my language we probably got 100

1227
00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:55,040
million worth of work out of that 22

1228
00:41:58,950 --> 00:41:56,880
million bucks um

1229
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:58,960
it's a shame that you know other

1230
00:42:02,790 --> 00:42:00,880
government officers couldn't do the same

1231
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:02,800
but no we we

1232
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:04,800
i think it was money well well spent and

1233
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:06,880
i think it was time and resources well

1234
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:08,240
spent

1235
00:42:11,910 --> 00:42:09,920
excellent thank you for that another

1236
00:42:13,349 --> 00:42:11,920
anonymous one here what are your

1237
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,359
thoughts on the hestalin lights

1238
00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:14,880
phenomenon do you think that there's an

1239
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:16,240
important connection to what we're

1240
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,960
seeing now in more recent times

1241
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,480
so the what lights if you could repeat

1242
00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:22,560
that the stalin lights

1243
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:24,960
it's a phenomenon that was studied um i

1244
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:28,480
think it was norway back in the 1980s

1245
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:30,319
unfortunately and i know probably we're

1246
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,319
going to think i'm

1247
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,560
you know fibbing here but i i don't know

1248
00:42:38,470 --> 00:42:36,480
i might know the event it's made the

1249
00:42:40,470 --> 00:42:38,480
name may be throwing me off i i don't

1250
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:40,480
know specifically

1251
00:42:45,349 --> 00:42:43,119
hestilen events uh we

1252
00:42:47,589 --> 00:42:45,359
we focus you know a tip on on current

1253
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,599
military events some some historical

1254
00:42:51,670 --> 00:42:50,160
stuff but but usually u.s related for

1255
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:51,680
the most part

1256
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:53,520
not other ones you want to do can you

1257
00:42:57,349 --> 00:42:55,280
describe for me a little bit of what

1258
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:57,359
happened yeah i think it was it was over

1259
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:59,520
a number of years it was these sightings

1260
00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:00,720
that were happening regularly and i

1261
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,560
think it was relating to a lot of things

1262
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:04,000
like ball lightning and things along

1263
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,200
those lines

1264
00:43:09,349 --> 00:43:07,280
um sometimes apparently

1265
00:43:10,950 --> 00:43:09,359
a physical craft as well

1266
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:10,960
yeah so so ball lightning is something

1267
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,319
very interesting you know obviously it's

1268
00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,040
a natural phenomenon there's also we see

1269
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:17,280
ball lightning and other type of of uh

1270
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,359
electromagnetic discharge associated

1271
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:21,839
with a great amount of release of energy

1272
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:24,000
from tectonic movements usually

1273
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:25,680
typically right before during an

1274
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:27,520
earthquake you can you can see the whole

1275
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,000
atmosphere start to light up uh you also

1276
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:32,400
have um you know aurora borealis you

1277
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,319
have something called uh sprites which

1278
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,240
is kind of this this shooting of plasma

1279
00:43:40,790 --> 00:43:38,240
up from the clouds up into the upper

1280
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:40,800
atmosphere and then of course um you

1281
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:42,720
know you have man-made stuff and this is

1282
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:44,160
this is important because what people

1283
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,359
don't realize over the northern

1284
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,040
hemisphere

1285
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:50,160
a lot of of ballistic tests as it

1286
00:43:55,270 --> 00:43:51,440
relates to

1287
00:43:57,190 --> 00:43:55,280
to ballistic missiles um are are flown

1288
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:57,200
over the northern hemisphere and so a

1289
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,839
lot of times uh first stage solid rocket

1290
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:01,680
booster motors on re-entry will come in

1291
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,520
you get this weird spiral effect and

1292
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:05,839
looks almost like a pinwheel

1293
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,520
because you know

1294
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,280
when you're talking about

1295
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,319
high altitude um you're talking very

1296
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,800
very low air pressure air density

1297
00:44:18,950 --> 00:44:16,560
pressure is almost nil

1298
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,960
and so the way a gas behaves in a vacuum

1299
00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:21,200
environment is substantially different

1300
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,280
than way a gas might

1301
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:25,599
behave down here you know on

1302
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:26,640
at

1303
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,880
our pressure and so a lot of times you

1304
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,480
can you know

1305
00:44:34,069 --> 00:44:32,240
kind of fool the eye you look at the eye

1306
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,079
you look up and up in the

1307
00:44:37,910 --> 00:44:36,160
space and you see this object doing all

1308
00:44:39,670 --> 00:44:37,920
sorts of weird stuff

1309
00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,680
when reality it's it's just you know it

1310
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:41,839
could be a hydrazine tank uh bleeding

1311
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,160
off some some some propellant unused

1312
00:44:48,309 --> 00:44:47,040
propellant and um you know when you look

1313
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:48,319
at that from the ground it can look it

1314
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:50,079
can look pretty amazing so that's why

1315
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,760
it's important ai going back to our

1316
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,359
conversation about ai that we can

1317
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:54,800
utilize ai

1318
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:56,720
recognize those signatures recognize

1319
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,960
those known patterns of the way things

1320
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:01,520
behave and then filter the the the

1321
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:03,599
proverbial wheat from the chaff or right

1322
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:06,560
or isolate the the signal from from the

1323
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:08,319
rest of the noise and that's when you

1324
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,760
have the aha moment because the last

1325
00:45:13,109 --> 00:45:11,359
thing you want to do is say you know

1326
00:45:16,710 --> 00:45:13,119
look look look here's a uap and it turns

1327
00:45:19,270 --> 00:45:16,720
out no actually it's not right it's uh

1328
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:19,280
it's uh it's a star link for example

1329
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,200
right yeah so

1330
00:45:24,550 --> 00:45:23,599
thank you excellent thank you um well

1331
00:45:26,870 --> 00:45:24,560
here we go

1332
00:45:28,950 --> 00:45:26,880
mr joshua ringer in your experience with

1333
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,960
the uap phenomenon has anything happened

1334
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:31,200
or any knowledge been gained that would

1335
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,250
impact your thoughts on the afterlife

1336
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,880
[Music]

1337
00:45:42,069 --> 00:45:39,040
wow thank you for asking that question

1338
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:44,470
if anything it shows that the universe

1339
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:46,319
is far more wondrous than we ever give a

1340
00:45:51,430 --> 00:45:47,920
credit for

1341
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:51,440
um i will share my own personal thoughts

1342
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,440
and let me caveat they are only my my my

1343
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:57,119
my opinion

1344
00:46:01,990 --> 00:45:58,880
um

1345
00:46:04,710 --> 00:46:02,000
but i i'm fairly convinced

1346
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,720
death is is is a process no different

1347
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,000
than birth

1348
00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:08,160
uh it's a transition and i say that

1349
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:09,680
because i've seen enough of my fair

1350
00:46:15,670 --> 00:46:12,000
share of death up close and personal

1351
00:46:17,670 --> 00:46:15,680
uh both in in um in

1352
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,680
terrible circumstances and and in

1353
00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:20,000
circumstances that you know were more

1354
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:21,040
natural

1355
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:22,400
um

1356
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:26,079
my opinion

1357
00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,680
it's no different than

1358
00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:29,680
walking over the threshold from from

1359
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:32,240
somewhere else into this this life

1360
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,560
and then stepping over the threshold

1361
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:36,240
back to something else

1362
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,280
um

1363
00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:39,040
you know we've long we've long known and

1364
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,440
by the way a lot of religions also also

1365
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:43,359
subscribe to this said we know that

1366
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:45,520
energy cannot be created or destroyed

1367
00:46:49,810 --> 00:46:49,280
right it just moves on transforms

1368
00:46:51,030 --> 00:46:49,820
um

1369
00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,040
[Music]

1370
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:53,200
you know at some point i may share a

1371
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:54,960
little bit of of

1372
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,200
my personal experiences again i don't

1373
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:59,280
want to distract from the topic of uap

1374
00:47:02,069 --> 00:47:00,400
because

1375
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,079
at the end of the day it's really not

1376
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:05,119
relevant what i think it's not relevant

1377
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:08,240
my experiences on this kind of stuff

1378
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:09,599
what matters is what the facts and the

1379
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,319
data suggest right what the facts say

1380
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,440
so i'm always very keen because

1381
00:47:20,790 --> 00:47:17,599
the moment you go from from

1382
00:47:23,030 --> 00:47:20,800
scientific discussion to spirituality

1383
00:47:24,069 --> 00:47:23,040
um it's kind of a slippery slope and

1384
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:24,079
what we've got to do is we've got to

1385
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,119
make sure we don't blend the two

1386
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:27,359
together we really really really have to

1387
00:47:30,470 --> 00:47:28,640
be careful now i'm going to share

1388
00:47:33,990 --> 00:47:30,480
something with you real quick

1389
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:34,000
a quote uh because i think it's it's

1390
00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:35,359
it's relevant and i shared this with

1391
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,319
christina not too long ago

1392
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:40,400
and then i sent it to my sky fort guys

1393
00:47:44,309 --> 00:47:42,319
and they they they actually were able to

1394
00:47:46,390 --> 00:47:44,319
put a really neat little chart together

1395
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:46,400
let me pull this up in a second

1396
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:47,200
sure

1397
00:47:52,470 --> 00:47:50,000
because you know as i i am

1398
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,480
i do feel that science is important i

1399
00:47:57,349 --> 00:47:55,040
tend to stick to the scientific

1400
00:47:59,750 --> 00:47:57,359
um methodology of things i think it's

1401
00:48:01,430 --> 00:47:59,760
important we we we do that but

1402
00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:01,440
i mean it's a big but

1403
00:48:05,349 --> 00:48:02,640
there are

1404
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:05,359
there's a whole another part of human

1405
00:48:07,589 --> 00:48:06,480
existence

1406
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:07,599
that

1407
00:48:11,670 --> 00:48:09,839
science can't um

1408
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:11,680
really can't can't explain and not only

1409
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:13,200
can it explain it really has no no

1410
00:48:17,349 --> 00:48:14,720
purview either so let me pull this up

1411
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:19,750
okay i'm gonna have to do this the

1412
00:48:27,030 --> 00:48:23,680
old-fashioned way here we go okay

1413
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:30,710
this is about scientism okay

1414
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:34,400
scientism is a speculative world view

1415
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,480
about the ultimate reality of the

1416
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:38,319
universe

1417
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,160
and its meaning

1418
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,440
once you accept that science is the only

1419
00:48:48,549 --> 00:48:46,160
source of human knowledge you have

1420
00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:48,559
adopted a philosophical position of

1421
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:50,160
scientism

1422
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:53,359
that cannot be verified or falsified by

1423
00:48:58,549 --> 00:48:55,119
science itself

1424
00:48:59,750 --> 00:48:58,559
and so why is that interesting to me

1425
00:49:02,790 --> 00:48:59,760
well because

1426
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,800
in the pursuit of science

1427
00:49:07,270 --> 00:49:04,800
scientists often

1428
00:49:08,790 --> 00:49:07,280
wind up adopting

1429
00:49:13,829 --> 00:49:08,800
scientism

1430
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:13,839
different than any other religion out

1431
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,720
there

1432
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,800
and we must be careful of that we must

1433
00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:18,800
understand that there are limitations to

1434
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,920
science

1435
00:49:24,069 --> 00:49:21,040
um

1436
00:49:27,430 --> 00:49:24,079
there are limitations to to to

1437
00:49:29,990 --> 00:49:27,440
to current and modern technology um

1438
00:49:33,109 --> 00:49:30,000
and i also will remind people that

1439
00:49:35,190 --> 00:49:33,119
everybody's hype every every every well

1440
00:49:37,190 --> 00:49:35,200
substantial substantiated scientific

1441
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:37,200
principle today that we we just accept

1442
00:49:40,790 --> 00:49:38,880
as being no kidding

1443
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:40,800
started off as somebody's wacky's any

1444
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:43,920
hypothesis at some point in the past

1445
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:47,359
without without without exception so so

1446
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:49,760
lest we forget that and and remember

1447
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:51,839
that in the pursuit of science

1448
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:53,359
let's not get lost in the world of

1449
00:49:57,109 --> 00:49:54,559
scientism

1450
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:57,119
um you know i i do think there's

1451
00:50:02,549 --> 00:49:59,280
there's much to this universe that that

1452
00:50:03,829 --> 00:50:02,559
is is not is not necessarily um

1453
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,839
can be explained by sign look look at

1454
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,839
the reality of love right if i ask you

1455
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:07,599
what is love

1456
00:50:10,309 --> 00:50:08,960
well we all agree that there's a thing

1457
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:10,319
called love because we all feel it and

1458
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,680
yet we'll all explain it a little bit

1459
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,680
differently yeah you can't touch it you

1460
00:50:17,750 --> 00:50:15,760
can't see it you can't hear it you can't

1461
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,760
smell it you can't weigh it you can't

1462
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:18,880
measure it

1463
00:50:24,150 --> 00:50:21,119
and yet it's something as universal as

1464
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:24,160
as as you and me and and and as real as

1465
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:25,599
as our planet

1466
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,440
right look at look at maternal instinct

1467
00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:29,440
look at this is this is something that

1468
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,520
is so innately strong in some human

1469
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:33,839
beings that it goes contrary to the

1470
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,760
survival of the individual itself they

1471
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,520
will literally

1472
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,040
kill themselves

1473
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:41,599
to to protect and defend

1474
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,640
uh the next offspring and so so it is

1475
00:50:49,270 --> 00:50:46,960
real you can you know pretend it's not

1476
00:50:50,710 --> 00:50:49,280
but it is and there's an example of of

1477
00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:50,720
the reality of something that is

1478
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:52,319
spiritual something that we can't

1479
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:54,880
measure through science and yet is as

1480
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:57,200
very real as anything else that we deal

1481
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:58,400
with

1482
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:59,599
so

1483
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:01,920
anyways long-winded answer uh i didn't

1484
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:03,760
mean to digress too much but you're

1485
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:06,720
asking me a question that i want to be i

1486
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:09,440
want to answer fairly sure but i also

1487
00:51:14,790 --> 00:51:12,400
don't want to overstate my

1488
00:51:17,030 --> 00:51:14,800
if you will my uh my position uh

1489
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:17,040
overstep my position in in providing

1490
00:51:19,589 --> 00:51:18,480
this information

1491
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:19,599
it's

1492
00:51:25,589 --> 00:51:23,599
don't want my opinion to to

1493
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:25,599
to detract from from our pursuits of

1494
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:28,400
trying to figure out what what these are

1495
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:29,760
that was great that was well explained

1496
00:51:34,150 --> 00:51:32,559
and yeah i appreciate that so thank you

1497
00:51:36,870 --> 00:51:34,160
um i'm gonna move on to this question

1498
00:51:39,349 --> 00:51:36,880
from a road warrior can you please ask

1499
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:39,359
lou what he knows about the ufo and navy

1500
00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:42,240
situation in puerto rico specifically

1501
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:45,280
lake cartagena and the puerto rico

1502
00:51:48,790 --> 00:51:47,040
trench

1503
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:48,800
it ain't just puerto rico and you're

1504
00:51:52,470 --> 00:51:51,040
right that's an awfully deep trench 22

1505
00:51:53,990 --> 00:51:52,480
000 feet deep

1506
00:51:55,109 --> 00:51:54,000
a lot of strange weird things happen

1507
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:55,119
there

1508
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:56,480
you know you do have some seismic

1509
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,440
activity

1510
00:52:02,950 --> 00:51:59,440
and some subduction zones but you also

1511
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,960
have a lot of other stuff going on

1512
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:04,880
there has been reported as part of the

1513
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:06,800
you know bermuda triangle

1514
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:08,240
so there's a reason why people have

1515
00:52:11,990 --> 00:52:09,599
always talked about the bermuda triangle

1516
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:12,000
i mean weird things do happen now it can

1517
00:52:15,190 --> 00:52:13,680
possibly be explained by science but in

1518
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,200
reality we don't yet

1519
00:52:20,069 --> 00:52:17,520
know exactly what's going on there

1520
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:20,079
um you know we've had many accounts

1521
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:21,200
which i just said you know i'll tell you

1522
00:52:25,670 --> 00:52:22,640
i talked to somebody

1523
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:25,680
uh in in in the navy

1524
00:52:29,590 --> 00:52:27,599
when was it give me a second i'll tell

1525
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,600
you exactly when

1526
00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:31,200
[Music]

1527
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,240
day before yesterday my uh my my wife

1528
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:35,680
and i are at a restaurant and a

1529
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:37,599
gentleman comes up and says hey

1530
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,319
uh i i recognize you and so we started

1531
00:52:43,589 --> 00:52:42,319
chatting and i was in the navy and she

1532
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:43,599
said i was navy i want to thank you for

1533
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:45,440
your service and you know these were the

1534
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:46,960
ships they sent me pictures of the ships

1535
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,280
he was on uh really really neat and then

1536
00:52:53,349 --> 00:52:50,880
he goes to tell me about how when they

1537
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:53,359
were in the bermuda triangle um they

1538
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:54,720
would they would have all these

1539
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:56,960
interesting experiences now this is a

1540
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,480
u.s navy ship that is a submarine tender

1541
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:02,240
right this is the the the ship that's

1542
00:53:07,030 --> 00:53:03,839
responsible for stocking up and

1543
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:07,040
supplying a nuclear submarine

1544
00:53:10,470 --> 00:53:08,640
and uh you know they've got a lot of

1545
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,480
really good equipment on board and when

1546
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:12,240
he says everything goes blank and dead

1547
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:13,280
on the boat

1548
00:53:16,549 --> 00:53:14,960
that's an indicator that hey i mean we

1549
00:53:18,309 --> 00:53:16,559
got backups we got redundancy we've got

1550
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,319
all sorts and he told me at one point

1551
00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:19,440
they had to get a guy out with an

1552
00:53:23,349 --> 00:53:21,440
old-fashioned sextant because everything

1553
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,359
in order to even navigate

1554
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:25,920
every single thing went down on the boat

1555
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:28,559
they could they were completely blind

1556
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,359
um

1557
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,960
and that that's in modern times man

1558
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:32,880
that's that's a that's a modern ship you

1559
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,720
know 1200 foot ginormous hunk of steel

1560
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,160
on the water that's got all sorts of

1561
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,400
capability on board uh just going dead

1562
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,640
in the water that's incredible

1563
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:44,559
yeah i can i mean i've got i don't wanna

1564
00:53:47,589 --> 00:53:45,680
he didn't give me permission to share

1565
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,599
with everybody but uh you know i can

1566
00:53:51,030 --> 00:53:49,359
well again your people are too savvy i

1567
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,040
throw up i throw a picture up real quick

1568
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:52,960
but i know exactly what will happen if i

1569
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,839
do that better not

1570
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:57,119
um you know but that's that's modern

1571
00:54:02,870 --> 00:54:00,319
times um and we also had reports of uap

1572
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:02,880
we know that there were a lot of in uso

1573
00:54:07,270 --> 00:54:04,640
and the question is are uap really part

1574
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:07,280
of the uso phenomenon well that

1575
00:54:10,549 --> 00:54:08,880
anecdotally it seems like yeah there is

1576
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:10,559
you know that trans medium travel that

1577
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,559
maybe usos are part of the greater uap

1578
00:54:18,390 --> 00:54:15,040
issue yeah um certainly seems to be

1579
00:54:20,069 --> 00:54:18,400
enough information to suggest that so um

1580
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,079
yeah it's a that's a really interesting

1581
00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:22,559
place puerto rico uh for for more than

1582
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,920
just one reason yeah lovely thank you um

1583
00:54:28,790 --> 00:54:27,200
this next question are you still

1584
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:28,800
involved in conversations regarding

1585
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:31,200
metamaterial testing or are you having

1586
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,880
conversations with people that are

1587
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:34,720
involved

1588
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,870
and things are going well and i'll leave

1589
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:40,079
it at that

1590
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:41,280
brilliant is that something we might

1591
00:54:44,870 --> 00:54:42,960
hear about in the future then i sure

1592
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,880
hope so yeah that's why i'm doing what

1593
00:54:48,069 --> 00:54:46,559
i'm doing i'm not going to keep it

1594
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:48,079
secret man

1595
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:49,359
i just got to make sure that you know we

1596
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:51,520
do it the right way and um we gotta let

1597
00:54:57,190 --> 00:54:52,400
you know

1598
00:54:58,630 --> 00:54:57,200
absolutely now i'm gonna open this up to

1599
00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,640
the people in the live chat now if you

1600
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,799
wanna ask questions get them in i can't

1601
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:02,799
read them all i'm afraid but we'll we'll

1602
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,240
have a go uh mr christian thompson does

1603
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:08,640
aliens live in other frequencies here on

1604
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:10,240
earth

1605
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:12,400
well that's been one of the hypothesis

1606
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:14,319
that has been presented

1607
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:16,319
we don't know we know a lot of a lot of

1608
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:18,799
reality exists in other frequencies

1609
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:20,240
again your cell phone is a perfect

1610
00:55:23,670 --> 00:55:22,160
example there's there's realities all

1611
00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:23,680
around that we can't perceive whether

1612
00:55:27,910 --> 00:55:25,280
it's wi-fi or

1613
00:55:31,030 --> 00:55:27,920
you know uh fm and am and sell signal

1614
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:31,040
and gps um it's you know imagine if you

1615
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,640
had this ability to have uh uh you know

1616
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:36,079
fm vision right right now all of a

1617
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,680
sudden you could see the fm band what

1618
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:39,440
would the world look like right well

1619
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:40,720
that's reality that's what these things

1620
00:55:45,270 --> 00:55:42,720
do all the time

1621
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:45,280
so so we know that

1622
00:55:51,270 --> 00:55:48,480
you know 99.9 of reality lies outside of

1623
00:55:53,030 --> 00:55:51,280
the very narrow electro optical spectrum

1624
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:53,040
that we call visible light

1625
00:55:57,349 --> 00:55:54,640
everything is either too high or too low

1626
00:56:00,549 --> 00:55:57,359
for us to perceive and so by definition

1627
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,559
there are a lot of things that that that

1628
00:56:03,750 --> 00:56:02,319
can thrive in these other frequencies

1629
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:03,760
now when i say thrive let me give you an

1630
00:56:07,430 --> 00:56:05,599
example a bumblebee we'll look at

1631
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:07,440
flowers through ultraviolet and be able

1632
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:09,119
to look at certain flowers in a certain

1633
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:10,960
way and know which flowers wants to go

1634
00:56:16,470 --> 00:56:13,280
and and you know it will take the nectar

1635
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:16,480
and it subsequently pollinates

1636
00:56:19,510 --> 00:56:18,000
we don't see an ultraviolet so we have

1637
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,520
no idea

1638
00:56:23,670 --> 00:56:21,839
that that whole world existed and yet

1639
00:56:24,870 --> 00:56:23,680
these honeybees

1640
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:24,880
live their life

1641
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,559
you know perceiving in the ultraviolet

1642
00:56:31,349 --> 00:56:28,960
spectrum that's their reality

1643
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:31,359
now do can things live in other

1644
00:56:35,349 --> 00:56:34,160
frequencies um great question

1645
00:56:37,829 --> 00:56:35,359
you know uh

1646
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:37,839
there's there's all sorts of

1647
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,079
anecdotal information to suggest that it

1648
00:56:43,270 --> 00:56:41,680
may not even be just frequencies you

1649
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:43,280
know there was a time in the universe

1650
00:56:47,270 --> 00:56:45,200
where scientists speculate where where

1651
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:47,280
the amount of matter and anti-matter in

1652
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:48,559
the universe it could have gone the

1653
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:50,400
other way we live in a world that we

1654
00:56:54,390 --> 00:56:51,920
called all this matter

1655
00:56:56,950 --> 00:56:54,400
but it could have been anti-matter that

1656
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,960
that wound up winning out

1657
00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,280
and and life could have evolved exactly

1658
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,440
like it is now except for it's the

1659
00:57:05,109 --> 00:57:03,280
opposite of matter in in a sense that

1660
00:57:06,789 --> 00:57:05,119
it's it's it's anti-matter

1661
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,799
uh and we would be living in an

1662
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:08,640
anti-matter world maybe the world we

1663
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:10,480
live in now is the anti-matter world we

1664
00:57:13,589 --> 00:57:12,000
just call it the matter world because we

1665
00:57:15,190 --> 00:57:13,599
don't know what else to call it but my

1666
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:15,200
point being is that there's

1667
00:57:19,349 --> 00:57:16,559
there's a lot of

1668
00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:19,359
possibilities of reality and and we need

1669
00:57:23,589 --> 00:57:21,359
to make sure without getting lost in

1670
00:57:25,270 --> 00:57:23,599
those worlds right and and all of a

1671
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:25,280
sudden creating these

1672
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,760
these pseudo religions about it um you

1673
00:57:31,109 --> 00:57:29,280
know we have to recognize that there

1674
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,119
there are alternatives there are

1675
00:57:34,870 --> 00:57:33,359
realities out there that are are far

1676
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:34,880
beyond our comprehension and

1677
00:57:40,630 --> 00:57:37,680
understanding um simply because of the

1678
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:40,640
fact we are a biological organism that

1679
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,880
are living in very specific confines

1680
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,119
within a very specific paradigm

1681
00:57:48,950 --> 00:57:47,040
uh but not all things in the universe

1682
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:48,960
are confined to that you know we talk

1683
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:51,520
about life existing in a goldilocks you

1684
00:57:55,670 --> 00:57:53,839
know part of our solar system yeah and

1685
00:57:57,750 --> 00:57:55,680
we expect other life to exist in that

1686
00:57:59,829 --> 00:57:57,760
goldilocks but we know there's life

1687
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,839
forms in our own planet right now that

1688
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,280
if you were to bring it to where you and

1689
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:03,200
i are would it's not a goldilocks they

1690
00:58:07,510 --> 00:58:05,280
die instantly i remember fishing off the

1691
00:58:10,710 --> 00:58:07,520
coast of well better

1692
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:10,720
i was off of a a particular place um

1693
00:58:14,870 --> 00:58:12,559
not too long ago taking some r r and we

1694
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:14,880
did some fishing and a buddy of mine

1695
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:16,400
threw some line in and the line just

1696
00:58:18,549 --> 00:58:17,520
kept going down and down to down and

1697
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:18,559
down and down

1698
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:20,079
and all of a sudden he caught something

1699
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:21,760
and he starts reeling it up

1700
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:23,359
and he catches this little fish and

1701
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:24,960
unfortunately the fish because it lives

1702
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:26,960
so deep in the water its peridot that

1703
00:58:29,990 --> 00:58:29,200
was its natural state very cold very

1704
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:30,000
dark

1705
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:31,440
by the time he brought the little fish

1706
00:58:36,549 --> 00:58:33,520
up it had embolized unfortunately the

1707
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:36,559
fish died and uh but but the point being

1708
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,480
is that it was brought into a hostile

1709
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:40,720
environment what we consider

1710
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:43,119
our goldilocks area er you know if you

1711
00:58:47,430 --> 00:58:44,720
will environment here just in this

1712
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:47,440
planet is not even goldilocks for for a

1713
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,960
lot of living things in fact it's

1714
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:51,599
hostile it's caustic it'll kill it

1715
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,680
that's a case in point so we have to be

1716
00:58:57,190 --> 00:58:55,520
careful when we when we

1717
00:58:58,870 --> 00:58:57,200
say things that well everything you know

1718
00:59:01,109 --> 00:58:58,880
that living things can only live you

1719
00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:01,119
know on a planet that's so far from its

1720
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:02,799
sun with these temperatures and these

1721
00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:05,520
oxygen levels and that's simply not true

1722
00:59:08,710 --> 00:59:07,040
that's simply not true we have to we

1723
00:59:10,789 --> 00:59:08,720
have to think beyond that there are

1724
00:59:13,510 --> 00:59:10,799
examples of life forms on our very own

1725
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:13,520
planet that that have to live in what we

1726
00:59:17,109 --> 00:59:15,440
would consider inhospitable environments

1727
00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:17,119
if you bring it to our environment

1728
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:19,920
that's inhospitable so

1729
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:20,720
no

1730
00:59:24,309 --> 00:59:22,640
excellent thank you um

1731
00:59:26,870 --> 00:59:24,319
witnesses and uap thank you for the

1732
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,880
super sticker my friend sean um

1733
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:29,280
can you tell us about an atip study of a

1734
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:32,480
brazil case

1735
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,680
yeah

1736
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,160
uh there were a few i suspect they're

1737
00:59:39,750 --> 00:59:38,480
talking about colors

1738
00:59:40,870 --> 00:59:39,760
um

1739
00:59:43,829 --> 00:59:40,880
you know

1740
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:43,839
they're um i had the i had the distinct

1741
00:59:49,430 --> 00:59:46,799
honor to to be at a meeting when

1742
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:49,440
general choi was there for a debriefing

1743
00:59:53,829 --> 00:59:51,599
i got to be careful not to go too far

1744
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:53,839
down here because

1745
00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:56,559
that report may still be sensitive but

1746
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:58,799
he uh he provided us a lot of detail

1747
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:01,119
uh to include some of the the casualties

1748
01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:04,000
um that were deaths from some of his his

1749
01:00:06,630 --> 01:00:04,799
men

1750
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:06,640
had as a result of the colors incident

1751
01:00:12,309 --> 01:00:10,079
uh and and video and photographs and uh

1752
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,319
it was very very compelling and it was

1753
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:14,240
well known and it was accepted by all

1754
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,760
the military brass because they were

1755
01:00:19,030 --> 01:00:17,280
there for it and it was over a long

1756
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:19,040
period of time this wasn't like a 5-10

1757
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:20,799
minute incident and this had occurred

1758
01:00:25,109 --> 01:00:23,040
over over days

1759
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:25,119
and so yeah i mean it was it was very

1760
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,720
compelling and that was a that was you

1761
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:28,400
know that was definitely one of the

1762
01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:30,799
interesting ones that we we looked at in

1763
01:00:34,470 --> 01:00:32,240
brazil you know who's doing a really

1764
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:34,480
good job with this right now is james

1765
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,720
fox the producer james fox

1766
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:38,880
he and i talk quite a bit and uh you

1767
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:42,480
know we we we share things and leads um

1768
01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:44,319
and i don't want to speak for him but

1769
01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,559
but he's he's he's hot on the case of

1770
01:00:49,430 --> 01:00:48,079
some really interesting stuff and i'll

1771
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:49,440
leave it at that

1772
01:00:53,670 --> 01:00:51,760
that's fantastic yeah i'm enjoying

1773
01:00:57,750 --> 01:00:53,680
intrigued by the clarisse case

1774
01:00:59,990 --> 01:00:57,760
um i've lost my questions sorry guys

1775
01:01:02,309 --> 01:01:00,000
here we go cassie chris aguidea puerto

1776
01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,319
rico 2013 have you studied and can you

1777
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:04,559
provide any inside whether it's valid

1778
01:01:07,910 --> 01:01:06,240
does the ship really break up in the end

1779
01:01:10,309 --> 01:01:07,920
or is it possible that is our perception

1780
01:01:11,910 --> 01:01:10,319
once it touches the water no we studied

1781
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:11,920
it and it was real it was a dhs

1782
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:14,319
helicopter and i know the military

1783
01:01:17,270 --> 01:01:15,760
installation that was taken over and

1784
01:01:20,230 --> 01:01:17,280
exactly when it happened

1785
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:20,240
that's very legit um you know there was

1786
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:21,680
there was some

1787
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:25,440
concern initially because this was at a

1788
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:27,520
uh interesting time and the united

1789
01:01:32,549 --> 01:01:29,599
states had some sensitive uh facilities

1790
01:01:33,349 --> 01:01:32,559
there and uh yeah it was uh it was real

1791
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,359
um

1792
01:01:37,750 --> 01:01:35,680
as for the the the what you're talking

1793
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,760
about the breakup there does seem to be

1794
01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:39,280
portions of it where the object goes

1795
01:01:42,549 --> 01:01:40,640
underwater

1796
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:42,559
without making a splash again

1797
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:45,359
transmedium travel right and and does so

1798
01:01:48,230 --> 01:01:46,160
with

1799
01:01:49,670 --> 01:01:48,240
losing velocity and then coming back out

1800
01:01:52,069 --> 01:01:49,680
again

1801
01:01:54,870 --> 01:01:52,079
and as far as splitting into two it

1802
01:01:56,150 --> 01:01:54,880
looks like that that looks like a it's

1803
01:01:58,069 --> 01:01:56,160
not an echo

1804
01:01:58,950 --> 01:01:58,079
on the image it looks like it actually

1805
01:02:00,630 --> 01:01:58,960
did

1806
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:00,640
we don't know what it is i will tell you

1807
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:02,400
that there were some folks that did it

1808
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:03,920
you know fair in all fairness they had a

1809
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:05,280
really compelling argument about some

1810
01:02:10,069 --> 01:02:07,119
chinese lanterns

1811
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:10,079
that were launched for a wedding nearby

1812
01:02:14,069 --> 01:02:11,920
turns out that the winds were not

1813
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:14,079
favorable for that it wasn't

1814
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:15,359
those probably weren't

1815
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:16,960
you know these chinese lanterns they

1816
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:18,480
were referring to

1817
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:20,240
but i appreciate the fact that people

1818
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,000
were looking at it uh from a fair and

1819
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:24,000
objective way and they were bringing in

1820
01:02:27,750 --> 01:02:25,680
all the data right what were the

1821
01:02:30,390 --> 01:02:27,760
prevailing wins right what was what was

1822
01:02:31,990 --> 01:02:30,400
going on at that time um i get i get

1823
01:02:33,270 --> 01:02:32,000
stuff all the time

1824
01:02:34,710 --> 01:02:33,280
from people on the inside of the

1825
01:02:36,230 --> 01:02:34,720
government you know kind of freaked out

1826
01:02:38,549 --> 01:02:36,240
they're like hey check this out we just

1827
01:02:40,230 --> 01:02:38,559
caught this over a military installation

1828
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,240
you know and and and sometimes they're

1829
01:02:44,549 --> 01:02:42,720
just they're just balloons they're just

1830
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:44,559
balloons they're balloons that you know

1831
01:02:48,309 --> 01:02:46,240
look from a part to release from a party

1832
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:48,319
maybe someone's 31st birthday and the

1833
01:02:51,670 --> 01:02:50,240
and then the number three gets lost up

1834
01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:51,680
in the air and now that three is turned

1835
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:53,119
sideways now looks like some sort of

1836
01:02:56,870 --> 01:02:54,880
beautiful shape and people start

1837
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:56,880
freaking out right um

1838
01:02:59,829 --> 01:02:58,319
you know so

1839
01:03:02,470 --> 01:02:59,839
i'm pleased to say that there's a lot of

1840
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:02,480
people really looking at this i will

1841
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,799
also say and please forgive me i know

1842
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:06,480
people are going to be absolutely

1843
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,240
throwing stones at me but

1844
01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:10,960
but you know i i applaud people like

1845
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,520
mick west i i don't necessarily applaud

1846
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:15,280
their conclusions all the time because

1847
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:17,119
um you know i there's a difference

1848
01:03:22,710 --> 01:03:19,440
between providing an analytic

1849
01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:22,720
uh opinion and and being conclusive but

1850
01:03:26,870 --> 01:03:24,400
i do think it's important that we have

1851
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:26,880
people that are trying to find

1852
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:28,799
explanations because again that's how we

1853
01:03:33,109 --> 01:03:30,640
separate the signal from the noise the

1854
01:03:35,510 --> 01:03:33,119
more we look more we know what a a

1855
01:03:37,910 --> 01:03:35,520
conventional technology looks like

1856
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:37,920
the better and easier it makes it makes

1857
01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:40,400
it later on to isolate the real thing

1858
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,720
and so that's why i think people like

1859
01:03:46,630 --> 01:03:44,319
mick west and others are actually doing

1860
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:46,640
a wonderful service for us we may not

1861
01:03:51,349 --> 01:03:48,960
necessarily like how they do it but i

1862
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:51,359
think i think it's it's important that

1863
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:52,880
we we

1864
01:03:58,230 --> 01:03:55,440
we allow people to to have that

1865
01:04:00,549 --> 01:03:58,240
conversation um it's it's you know you

1866
01:04:03,510 --> 01:04:00,559
don't want to live in an echo chamber

1867
01:04:04,950 --> 01:04:03,520
even if you you don't agree with them um

1868
01:04:07,109 --> 01:04:04,960
the last thing you want to do is live in

1869
01:04:10,390 --> 01:04:07,119
an echo chamber we want to have we want

1870
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:10,400
to have all all voices heard

1871
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:12,960
absolutely no fantastic thank you

1872
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:15,839
um brayden ross coulthard's docu lou

1873
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:18,400
states no visible propulsion system no

1874
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:20,400
obviously signs of lift no wings no

1875
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:23,520
ailerons no elevators cockpits no rivets

1876
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,000
our photos and vids that detailed or

1877
01:04:28,710 --> 01:04:27,599
seen in person

1878
01:04:31,670 --> 01:04:28,720
yes

1879
01:04:36,069 --> 01:04:34,230
thank you very much um

1880
01:04:37,349 --> 01:04:36,079
oh i do remember i've got a question

1881
01:04:39,589 --> 01:04:37,359
here on my pad

1882
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:39,599
um are you following the

1883
01:04:44,470 --> 01:04:41,200
current updates with regards to the

1884
01:04:46,390 --> 01:04:44,480
mysterious tucson drone case

1885
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:46,400
sure and what do you think at the moment

1886
01:04:49,670 --> 01:04:47,680
because i think the latest we saw that

1887
01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:49,680
there was some internal emails where

1888
01:04:54,390 --> 01:04:52,000
they now saying that they saw like

1889
01:04:55,829 --> 01:04:54,400
quadcopter blades so well if you see

1890
01:04:58,630 --> 01:04:55,839
rotors and the chances are it's a

1891
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:58,640
conventional technology um you know

1892
01:05:02,789 --> 01:04:59,440
that's

1893
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:02,799
whole different reason a set of reasons

1894
01:05:05,510 --> 01:05:04,000
you know that means there's some sort of

1895
01:05:07,990 --> 01:05:05,520
adversary that's using conversion

1896
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:08,000
conventional technology and has somehow

1897
01:05:11,029 --> 01:05:09,520
figured out a way to have these things

1898
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:11,039
loiter for a lot longer and maneuver in

1899
01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:12,079
ways that

1900
01:05:16,789 --> 01:05:15,039
we really have a hard time understanding

1901
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:16,799
um you know

1902
01:05:21,029 --> 01:05:19,520
we need to make sure that that that's

1903
01:05:22,630 --> 01:05:21,039
what was seen

1904
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:22,640
but chances are if there's rotors

1905
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:24,880
associated with it then there's a high

1906
01:05:29,990 --> 01:05:27,359
high degree possibility that it's it's

1907
01:05:32,150 --> 01:05:30,000
it's something very conventional um but

1908
01:05:35,029 --> 01:05:32,160
we need to see we need those emails to

1909
01:05:37,029 --> 01:05:35,039
be to be you know i know i know

1910
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:37,039
tom and others you know really really

1911
01:05:40,870 --> 01:05:39,440
have a very specific perspective on this

1912
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:40,880
and i respect that perspective and i

1913
01:05:44,789 --> 01:05:42,880
think they're right some of the time i i

1914
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:44,799
do i think there's a lot of things

1915
01:05:48,789 --> 01:05:47,119
um you know that that look our foreign

1916
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,799
adversaries are are developing and

1917
01:05:52,230 --> 01:05:50,400
trying to leapfrogger technology every

1918
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:52,240
day and they are developing some pretty

1919
01:05:56,789 --> 01:05:54,960
crazy stuff just like we are you know

1920
01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:56,799
and sometimes they'll test it and

1921
01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:59,119
they'll test it to see our response

1922
01:06:04,789 --> 01:06:01,280
um that's no surprise we've been doing

1923
01:06:06,549 --> 01:06:04,799
that for for 70 800 years right

1924
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:06,559
so it's it's

1925
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:08,799
it's okay uh for for us to have this

1926
01:06:12,549 --> 01:06:10,079
conversation

1927
01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:12,559
um i don't have an opinion yet if it

1928
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:14,640
turns out that those emails are legit

1929
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:16,960
then chances are it's it's probably a

1930
01:06:21,029 --> 01:06:19,359
drone um that's why we have to be very

1931
01:06:23,109 --> 01:06:21,039
careful in the beginning i know when we

1932
01:06:25,029 --> 01:06:23,119
see data we're very tempted to jump and

1933
01:06:26,309 --> 01:06:25,039
say here's another example here's a ufo

1934
01:06:29,190 --> 01:06:26,319
well

1935
01:06:29,990 --> 01:06:29,200
again okay but i caution everybody from

1936
01:06:37,029 --> 01:06:30,000
from

1937
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:37,039
really need data data data um and the

1938
01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:39,520
good news is you know that same data

1939
01:06:43,029 --> 01:06:41,680
that's used to prove something is just a

1940
01:06:44,390 --> 01:06:43,039
quadcopter

1941
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:44,400
at the end of the day can be the same

1942
01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:46,640
data that proves it isn't and all of a

1943
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,319
sudden now you've got something really

1944
01:06:52,069 --> 01:06:50,160
revolutionary on your hands you've got

1945
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:52,079
something that's behaving that nothing

1946
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:54,000
does and we've got it from multiple

1947
01:06:57,029 --> 01:06:55,119
sensors and we've got it from the

1948
01:06:58,549 --> 01:06:57,039
eyewitness and now you're like okay

1949
01:07:00,549 --> 01:06:58,559
that's you know

1950
01:07:01,990 --> 01:07:00,559
that doesn't have you know rotor wash

1951
01:07:04,230 --> 01:07:02,000
that doesn't have a propeller it doesn't

1952
01:07:05,109 --> 01:07:04,240
have wings cockpits ailerons elevators

1953
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:05,119
you know

1954
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:06,240
none of that

1955
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:08,240
and that thing is flying and it's flying

1956
01:07:12,390 --> 01:07:11,280
in a way that we can't um that that's

1957
01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:12,400
that's when you know you have something

1958
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:13,440
special

1959
01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:14,400
yeah definitely because i've been

1960
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:16,000
following this case for quite some time

1961
01:07:21,029 --> 01:07:18,400
as it's evolved and then recently we saw

1962
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:21,039
some flare footage with an 810 warthog

1963
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:24,640
in it and it just made me think

1964
01:07:27,430 --> 01:07:26,319
that the object we see in this warthog

1965
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:27,440
video looks

1966
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:28,960
or sounds like it could be similar to

1967
01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:31,280
what the helicopter pilot saw in the

1968
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:34,400
tucson case some people swear that that

1969
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:35,760
that another one you're referring to

1970
01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,480
that that video it is a legit video the

1971
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:40,480
question is what does it show and some

1972
01:07:44,870 --> 01:07:42,960
people say it's a uap other people say

1973
01:07:47,829 --> 01:07:44,880
no to drone uh

1974
01:07:50,309 --> 01:07:47,839
and uh right now um there is some you

1975
01:07:51,589 --> 01:07:50,319
know quietly some fierce debate going on

1976
01:07:54,789 --> 01:07:51,599
to determine

1977
01:07:55,910 --> 01:07:54,799
um what it actually was um and that's

1978
01:07:57,589 --> 01:07:55,920
why it's important you hear from the

1979
01:07:59,190 --> 01:07:57,599
people on the ground you hear from the

1980
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,200
radar operators

1981
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:01,200
you hear from from the folks there that

1982
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:03,280
were actually on the scene at the time

1983
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:05,359
uh possibly from pilots that's all

1984
01:08:08,630 --> 01:08:06,880
that's important then you find out you

1985
01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:08,640
know you cast a broader net you start

1986
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:09,839
talking to commercial pilots who may

1987
01:08:13,190 --> 01:08:11,680
have been in the area at the time right

1988
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:13,200
yeah and and whatnot and then you start

1989
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:15,119
talking to private pilots maybe someone

1990
01:08:19,430 --> 01:08:17,759
who's flying a cessna right

1991
01:08:21,749 --> 01:08:19,440
from the next town over

1992
01:08:23,749 --> 01:08:21,759
so that's that's how you you you get

1993
01:08:24,470 --> 01:08:23,759
additional fidelity on an incident like

1994
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,480
that

1995
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:27,120
absolutely no thank you um mr

1996
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,480
christopher sharp hi chris hope you're

1997
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:30,719
doing well my friend um did a tip or the

1998
01:08:37,349 --> 01:08:34,159
uap tf study any uk cases with exception

1999
01:08:41,189 --> 01:08:39,189
i'm going to let them answer that the

2000
01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:41,199
only reason why i say because i

2001
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,550
that is a question that that the uk and

2002
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:48,960
the united states need to answer i'm not

2003
01:08:53,030 --> 01:08:51,040
going to i'm not going to speak behind i

2004
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:53,040
don't want to provide an answer

2005
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,719
that um

2006
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,480
puts either country in a situation where

2007
01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:58,080
they they have to

2008
01:09:02,390 --> 01:08:59,839
they have to respond that's not that's

2009
01:09:05,590 --> 01:09:02,400
not from my that's not my place to do

2010
01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:05,600
that's absolutely fantastic um let's do

2011
01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:07,279
one or two are you okay for time luke

2012
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:08,400
because i know we've just gone over

2013
01:09:13,510 --> 01:09:10,480
actually i do have to get my sorry i

2014
01:09:15,749 --> 01:09:13,520
move my my my mother-in-law in her new

2015
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:15,759
apartment so i have uh

2016
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:18,400
unfortunately no rest for the weary um

2017
01:09:23,189 --> 01:09:21,359
so no that's absolutely fine so guys

2018
01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:23,199
i'll have to leave it at that maybe lou

2019
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:24,400
will go

2020
01:09:27,349 --> 01:09:25,920
go ahead and do one more i feel terrible

2021
01:09:29,110 --> 01:09:27,359
you see you're making me feel guilty so

2022
01:09:30,950 --> 01:09:29,120
let's go now i gotta find a really good

2023
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:30,960
one here we go

2024
01:09:35,910 --> 01:09:33,199
oh no this one here what i lose thoughts

2025
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:35,920
on the uaps um observing us not only

2026
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,719
military bases but also normal people

2027
01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:40,400
this based on people's experience and

2028
01:09:43,749 --> 01:09:42,159
multiple sightings of the same kind of

2029
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:43,759
uap

2030
01:09:54,550 --> 01:09:52,950
is it possible that you forgive me i'm

2031
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:54,560
not sure i understand the question is it

2032
01:09:57,990 --> 01:09:56,400
are they conducting surveillance on us

2033
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:58,000
is that is that

2034
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,080
yeah i think um

2035
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:01,600
this is your no actually i know you all

2036
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:02,719
know thank you for the question i think

2037
01:10:07,510 --> 01:10:04,400
she's alluding to the fact that people

2038
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:07,520
um civilians are experienced in uap oh i

2039
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:08,960
say you're saying yeah yeah i mean no

2040
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:10,159
that's that's that's clear i mean we

2041
01:10:13,910 --> 01:10:11,679
have military incidents but we've have

2042
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,920
historical you know obviously reference

2043
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:15,679
going back hundreds and hundreds of

2044
01:10:21,350 --> 01:10:18,560
years of uap ufos um in fact for

2045
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:21,360
indigenous people it was common

2046
01:10:23,910 --> 01:10:22,080
so

2047
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,920
uh i don't think it's anything new i

2048
01:10:27,110 --> 01:10:26,000
think it's certainly possible

2049
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:27,120
that

2050
01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:29,040
whatever these are are are conducting

2051
01:10:32,470 --> 01:10:30,320
some sort of surveillance or

2052
01:10:34,790 --> 01:10:32,480
reconnaissance on us now the question is

2053
01:10:37,030 --> 01:10:34,800
for what reason right i mean we we we

2054
01:10:38,630 --> 01:10:37,040
surveil species on our own planet all

2055
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:38,640
the time and we fly helicopter over the

2056
01:10:41,669 --> 01:10:40,080
serengeti we scare the hell out of

2057
01:10:44,310 --> 01:10:41,679
wilder beasts they run in a stampede we

2058
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,320
decide that one we're gonna dart we dart

2059
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:45,840
it all of a sudden the thing wakes up

2060
01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:47,600
after you know i think what the hell was

2061
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:49,199
that and all of a sudden it runs back to

2062
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:50,239
its heart and said man you're not gonna

2063
01:10:53,350 --> 01:10:51,760
believe what just happened to me right

2064
01:10:54,790 --> 01:10:53,360
and what happens to her looks like man

2065
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:54,800
what are you what are you talking about

2066
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:56,560
me

2067
01:11:02,070 --> 01:11:00,000
where what what watering hole were you

2068
01:11:03,510 --> 01:11:02,080
just at you know

2069
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:03,520
no more sun you've been in the sun too

2070
01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:04,800
long there you go

2071
01:11:10,390 --> 01:11:08,320
jim so uh yeah it's certainly possible

2072
01:11:12,790 --> 01:11:10,400
excellent that's great well listen uh

2073
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:12,800
thank you everyone that has been

2074
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:14,400
watching for the people that sent super

2075
01:11:16,870 --> 01:11:15,760
stickers thank you so much for the

2076
01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:16,880
questions

2077
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:19,280
for the continued support and you know

2078
01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:20,480
hopefully we'll do this again in a

2079
01:11:23,750 --> 01:11:22,159
couple more months time

2080
01:11:28,310 --> 01:11:23,760
um and hopefully hopefully we'll do it

2081
01:11:33,669 --> 01:11:31,750
no more said about that just yet

2082
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:33,679
thank you everyone um i am going to be

2083
01:11:38,070 --> 01:11:35,600
back here in a couple of days time with

2084
01:11:40,229 --> 01:11:38,080
tim mcmillan from the debrief so i am

2085
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:40,239
great joining me there

2086
01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:41,040
yeah

2087
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:46,000
tell you he's a hell of an investigator

2088
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:47,840
man like for real like like from an

2089
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:49,760
investigator to an investigator

2090
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:52,000
he's the one guy you do not

2091
01:11:55,750 --> 01:11:53,920
want on your bad side that is the kind

2092
01:11:57,990 --> 01:11:55,760
of guy that will

2093
01:12:01,110 --> 01:11:58,000
find every little thing about you man

2094
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,120
he's he's tenacious as hell

2095
01:12:05,030 --> 01:12:03,120
yeah i'm gonna have to prep for that one

2096
01:12:06,950 --> 01:12:05,040
because uh yeah he's a super

2097
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:06,960
knowledgeable guy so yeah he is a good

2098
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,800
dude really really good he's really

2099
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:10,560
helped advance the conversation and he's

2100
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,480
he's he's objective and critical and

2101
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:14,320
he's he's exactly the kind of guy that

2102
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:16,000
you want in front of a jury presenting a

2103
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:18,080
case yeah i mean he's fantastic

2104
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:19,760
excellent yes i hope everyone can join

2105
01:12:23,270 --> 01:12:21,760
me for that one but for now guys please

2106
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,280
say thank you to lou

2107
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:25,440
virtually um thanks guys yeah i'll see